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Lowering Hp/Ap [Member]
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| Fox | Date: Sunday, 2009-10-11, 4:24 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Since the lowering hp/ap is locked to members i would just like to say something. I do agree the Donors is OP but not the meds because of 1 Particular reason. 1.Donors need the extra hp/ap to be able to heal to full.
For example: With donors it takes about 5 meds sometimes 6 depending to heal me to full. Thats just my 2 cents.
No mercy for hackers.
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Message edited by Fox - Sunday, 2009-10-11, 4:31 PM |
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| Phenom | Date: Sunday, 2009-10-11, 4:37 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I agree and just grind to level 85, the meds are the same.
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| Decode | Date: Sunday, 2009-10-11, 6:44 PM | Message # 3 |
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| Yes leave the meds and nerf the other stuff 
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| Fox | Date: Sunday, 2009-10-11, 7:26 PM | Message # 4 |
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| I say Nerf the spray/shotty delay
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| iKawaii | Date: Sunday, 2009-10-11, 9:33 PM | Message # 5 |
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| The machine guns=fun though, no hate on mgs D<
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| LucienWolf | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 1:31 AM | Message # 6 |
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| I think the Meds should be nerfed. 40 hp/ap, 4 clips. Only heals 160 each, while maintaining alot of hp/ap for the user.
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| Phenom | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 2:05 AM | Message # 7 |
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| Math time... Donator meds 6 clips
Heals 30 6 x 30 = 180 Level 85 meds[/u] 8 clips
Heals 20 8 x 20 = 160 ------------------------------------------------------------- It only heals 20 more. ------------------------------------------------------------- Donator gears are suppose to be better than shop items.
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| Fox | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 2:15 AM | Message # 8 |
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| Wrong phenom 85 meds dont have 8 clip it has 6 do Level 85 meds 6 clips
Heals 20 6x20=140 It heals 40 more
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| ManyBlackPpl | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 2:45 AM | Message # 9 |
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| 6x20=120 not 140 O_o. It heals 80hp/ap more.
 
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| Decode | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 5:18 AM | Message # 10 |
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| NOW YOU KNOW WHO SUCKS AT MATH LOL!!!!
I know my heights, and I have yet to be pushed to my limits.
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Message edited by Decode - Monday, 2009-10-12, 5:18 AM |
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| Fox | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 5:54 AM | Message # 11 |
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| oh rofl i misstyped Q_Q
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| LucienWolf | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 6:35 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Quote (ManyBlackPpl) 6x20=120 not 140 O_o. It heals 80hp/ap more. That's a pretty big difference. 40 each, and the donator equips are better then most shop items(Some I see hit for a total of 300 hp/ap, and the meds alone can make out to 360 hp/ap) I, myself, using my normal set-up have 234 hp/ap and I'm level 78 now. Two 12 damage shotguns kill me in 2 hits (12x12x2=288 dmg) And even if I had my shop meds(currently, 4 clip, 20 gives me 160 combined ap/hp) A specific donator has practically a 3x my personal stuff. So let's do my math.... Donator vs. Me (On Avg) Will have a 128% Hp/ap advantage on me. Which is okay.
Will have a medding(hp/ap) advantage of 225%. Which makes it look dim for a win.
His shotties against my shotties. His 12 dmg's, and my 11/10's dmgs(they cost me 70 WT, which means I don't get to use hp/ap adding rings) I'm going to take a 1 pb hit for each of them, his damage total from 2 pb's is 288 as stated above. Mine? Has a whopping 252 damage. A 114% advantage which aint to shabby. So If I take all that, subtract a 100% from each of the advantages(which would be my full potential) and add it together.... A Donator currently has me outwieghed by 167% A margin of 2 and 1/2 times myself. Now who likes math again?
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| Fox | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 2:40 PM | Message # 13 |
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| The fact that u say a 12 dmg shotty can 2 shot u and you have 234 hp/ap means that two things. A.Your also saying an AvengerMk2 can 2 shot u B.Your saying you have low AP,Like 40 or less. and also Donors need the extra meds for there Hp/Ap and even i dont get above 171 hp. Added (2009-10-12, 2:40 Pm)
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And if you didnt know even if you have 234 hp,if you have 40 ap, Its gonna be ez to 2 shot you, Because without AP your shots take full damage,I mean i can 2 shot someone who has like 130/120 or something with 12 dmg,thats because takes 1 hit to take out the ap,another to take out the HP. In your case,1 Shot will take out half ur hp. 2. Shot will take out the rest of ur hp.
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Message edited by Fox - Monday, 2009-10-12, 2:41 PM |
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| Splash | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 3:25 PM | Message # 14 |
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| Okay , who is going to pay for donors if its barely not worth it? Mind telling me who? Because the fucking answer simply is no. Lowering donor status is killing the server. Because we cannot pay for it anymore then.
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| ManyBlackPpl | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 3:29 PM | Message # 15 |
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| erm, when he says he has 234 hp/ap, he means that's the combined total of his hp and ap together (I think). Which means that your combined gear total is 300hp/ap (according to lucien), and your combined med healing total is 360hp/ap, while the lvl 85 meds total is 240hp/ap. Med advantage is actually 150% greater, (if your lvl 85). Oh, and as a side note for anyone who didn't know, the end result, 167%, is being compared to 0%, though that's the improper way of comparing it. You shouldn't be subtracting 100%'s. In actuality, compared to Lucien, donors have a 467% advantage over him, while Lucien only has a 100% advantage over them, which means that donors are 4.67 times stronger than lucien.
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| G_man | Date: Monday, 2009-10-12, 4:51 PM | Message # 16 |
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| Quote (Splash) Okay , who is going to pay for donors if its barely not worth it? Mind telling me who? Because the fucking answer simply is no. Lowering donor status is killing the server. Because we cannot pay for it anymore then.
i think he speaks the truth
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| LucienWolf | Date: Tuesday, 2009-10-13, 0:34 AM | Message # 17 |
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| Quote (ManyBlackPpl) erm, when he says he has 234 hp/ap, he means that's the combined total of his hp and ap together (I think). Which means that your combined gear total is 300hp/ap (according to lucien), and your combined med healing total is 360hp/ap, while the lvl 85 meds total is 240hp/ap. Med advantage is actually 150% greater, (if your lvl 85). Oh, and as a side note for anyone who didn't know, the end result, 167%, is being compared to 0%, though that's the improper way of comparing it. You shouldn't be subtracting 100%'s. In actuality, compared to Lucien, donors have a 467% advantage over him, while Lucien only has a 100% advantage over them, which means that donors are 4.67 times stronger than lucien. He speaks the truth. The 100% I was subtracting is my percentage, because if me and this donor were evenly matched, as meaning... we had exactly the same stuff that's the 100% loss from each thing. But yeah, your math is exactly correct. Also, be aware that my calculations were based off my level, and not the 85 level mark people are talking about. I really don't think a new person who comes and donates, at say level 15, gets better equipment then someone who's at level 75. I can see people who are 50+. Maybe level requirement donors would be nice.
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| Remp | Date: Tuesday, 2009-10-13, 12:38 PM | Message # 18 |
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| I've said this like a million times, but I'll say it in here too I guess :o. The delay on the donor shotguns should be 900, not 800. 800 allows for unlimited rs spam, which makes it completely overpowered. 900 allows for 3 consecutive rs shots which makes it easier to play against when the person can just stand still and spam you to death. The range on the sword needs to be fixed as well, having a range that's like 1/3 more than an average sword makes it unfair. All honesty, look at Trinity as an example. They get people to buy their donors all the time and it isn't overpowered at all.
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| Splash | Date: Tuesday, 2009-10-13, 1:39 PM | Message # 19 |
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| Quote (Splash) Okay , who is going to pay for donors if its barely not worth it? Mind telling me who? Because the fucking answer simply is no. Lowering donor status is killing the server. Because we cannot pay for it anymore then.
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| Yoshino | Date: Tuesday, 2009-10-13, 3:23 PM | Message # 20 |
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| Quote (Splash) Okay , who is going to pay for donors if its barely not worth it? Mind telling me who? Because the fucking answer simply is no. Lowering donor status is killing the server. Because we cannot pay for it anymore the
Quote (Remp) All honesty, look at Trinity as an example. They get people to buy their donors all the time and it isn't overpowered at all. in all honesty splash, with OPed donars your only going to get 1-time buyer`s. When its ONLY 15 USD for ALL DONARS your just asking for the server to die. Once everyone gets their hands on these OPed donars, whose gonna donate? What we need is a POA for the donars and to nerf them A BIT. Wee aint gonna have a bigger community at this rate. ALOT of people dont hasve paypal. With this donar POA we`re currently on, we're going to loose what could be valuable members. WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING WHAT TRINITY HAS ALREADY SHOWED THE WORLD OF PRIVATE SERVERS!
Message edited by Yoshino - Tuesday, 2009-10-13, 3:24 PM |
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